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Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« on: August 23, 2005, 12:51:53 PM »
Sry gia to spam sta Forums alla eimai noobaki.
Lew na kanw Minmatar-Brutor gia tis maxes kai mono (nai eimai PvP maniac) oso gia Skills kai ta loipa den gnwrizw tpt.

As grapsei kapoios mia apopsi kai mia symvoulh opws kai to ti tha eprepe na kanw molis mpw online.
Twra vlepw ton Player Guide sto eve-online.com alla den voithaei kai para poly.

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2005, 01:25:17 PM »
As tou dosei kapoios access sto prive forum mas gia na dei ton noob guide pou exo postarei ego

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2005, 01:59:41 PM »
Thelw thelw thelw thelw... SoSp u are my God  :not-worthy:
(mhn to pareis panw sou eeee!)

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2005, 02:36:07 PM »
It's smOke's job ;)

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2005, 02:38:25 PM »
Then Smoke' is my God  :not-worthy:

Seriously, i'm gonna need that guide soon!

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2005, 02:39:22 PM »
Apo Brutor Tribe exoume ton K Agg,ton Will Fireblade kai mena sto game,kai episis o parity kai o sisifos petane meta3y allwn kai minmattar skafi.Na 3ereis oti to leveling sto EvE einai teleiws diaforetiko apo oti exeis dei mexri twra,gia auto 8a grapsw ena guide gia to pws na maxareis to training effectiveness sou.Epipleon apories?Pane sto koumpi pou leei channels enw eisai ingame,pata join kai grapse maza,olo kai kapoios 8a einai mesa na sou e3igisei ta ypoloipa.

Yparxoun 5 levels gia ka8e 3exwristo skill.Ta skills ta agorazeis kai apla ta kaneis train.To skill training einai time based,kai den paizei rolo an kai poso syxna xrisimopoieis px ena kanoni i ena laser sto an 8a kalyterepsei i apodosi sou me auto. Ka8e skill exei ena primary kai ena secondary attribute,me basi ta opoia kai me ti boi8eia enos ma8imatikou typou ypologizetai to apaitoumeno training time.To 1o level ginetai sxetika grigora kai oso pame pros to 5o mporei na piasoume kai konta se mina,epeidi to training time ypologizetai me mia ek8etiki formula.To kalo einai oti den einai aparaitito na eisai logged in sto game gia na kaneis training,mporeis px na baleis ena skill pou apaitei 8 wres prin pas sti douleia sou,na bgeis apo to game kai otan gyriseis spiti na einai etoimo.

Gia na kaneis pvp stin xamiloteri 8esi pou mporeis na exeis se ena fleet,8a xreiasteis 1-2 bdomades skill training to ligotero. Etsi 8a mporeis na pareis ena apo ta mikrotera skafi sto game (frigate),na baleis 2-3 oplakia panw kai na to e3opliseis san auto pou sto eve legetai tackler.Auto einai syni8ws ena skafos mikro kai grigoro pou basizetai stin taxytita gia na epibiwsei,kai skopos tou einai na akinitopoiei ta antipala skafi wste na ta apoteleiwnei to ypoloipo fleet.Xwris tacklers o ex8ros apla feugei an dei oti den ton pairnei,ektos an exeis yperboliko firepower gia na ton ri3eis amesws.Ena tackler frigate syni8ws exei midamines antoxes an xtypi8ei apo kati megalytero,einai omws poly ftino.

Pleonektimata:8a pareis grigora mia geusi apo maxes sto game kai ta frigates einai pamf8ina.Efoson ta xaneis se operatiions tou corp,8a sou ta antika8ista kai to corp.

Meionektimata:8a pe8aineis syxna kai auto simainei oti 8a prepei na gyrnas se kapoio allo simeio pou exeis afimena ploia gia na pareis kainourio kai na 3anampeis sti maxi.Episis,makropro8esma 8a sou bgei pio oikonomiko apo apopsi xronou na 3ekiniseis pio syntiritika ton xaraktira sou.

Yparxoun kapoia skills,ta legomena learning kai advanced learning,ta opoia sou anebazoun ta attributes. Auto poly apla simainei (symfwna me ta parapanw),oti allo einai na kaneis train ena skill apeu8eias me to pou 8a mpeis sto game,kai allo na kaneis train to idio skill afou exeis anebasei 2-3 pontous sto primary kai to secondary attribute tou. Ta learning skills einai bareta giati den exoun ameso antiktypo sto game(px nea ships kai weapons),alla sou glitwnoun apisteuto xrono se oti kaneis training argotera.

Ta learning skills basizontai sta attributes memory kai intelligence,enw ta advanced learning sto attribute pou anebazoun kai to "sygkeniko-zeugari" tou.Ta skills auta exoun eidika onomata opws iron will (gia will),spatial awareness (gia perc) kai alla pou de 8ymamai,alla an kaneis show info 8a deis poio attribute sou anebazei to ka8ena,opote 8a lew apla gia paradeigma mem/intel/adv perc gia syntomia.

Ta "zeugaria" twn atrributes pane ws e3is,me 1o to pio simantiko kai 2o to ligotero simantiko(xrisimo kai gia na kaneis ton xaraktira sou stin arxi):
Intelligence-Memory gia industrial,science,research kai manufacturing characters (giati sto 90% twn skills pou 8a xreiastoun autoi,einai primary to intel kai secondary to mem)

Perception-Willpower gia olous ligo poly,giati se auta basizetai to poso grigora ma8aineis na leitourgeis nea opla kai ploia,alla kyriws xrisima gia tous PvP characters.Opws kai prin,se ola ta gunnery kai spaceship commands skills,to perc einai primary kai to will einai secondary attribute.

To charisma xreiazetai mono gia leadership skills,ta opoia dinoun bonus sta ploia tou gang sou (antistoixo me to party se "mesaiwnika" rpg),kai gia ka8ara trading skills.

Opote,o swstos tropos gia na anebaseis ta learning skills einai:
Enala3 apo ena lvl se intel kai mem(i anapoda,de 8ymamai,3ekina me to primary attribute twn learning skills),mexri na pas ta antistoixa skills sto 5.Sti synexeia kane ta advanced learning skills gia mem kai intel mexri to level 4.

Molis exei paei mem/intel sto 5 kai advanced mem/adv intel sto 4,kane to skill me titlo "learning" ws to level 4.Auto dinei ena epipleon 2% bonus per level se ka8e attribute.Den a3izei na to pas sto 5,giati 8a kaneis aposbesi tou training time sou meta apo kana 12mino (nai,exei ypologistei apo kapoious kamenous sta eve forums me arketi akribeia).Twra loipon 8a exeis maxarei ta mem kai intel sou,opote ta ypoloipa learning skills 8a ginoun poly pio eukola.Pane loipon ta learning twn perc/will sto 5.Molis teleiwseis kai me auto 8a exeis arketa anebasmena attributes gia na kaneis eukola kai ta adv learning gia perc/will,ta opoia den basizontai sta mem/intel,alla (opws mporeis na mantepseis apo ta "zeugi" pou anefera prin),sta idia ta perc/will.

Endiamesa bebaia enoeitai oti 8a kaneis kai alla skills.Egw syni8ws ekana skills gia ships kai weapons otan imoun logged in,kai prin kanw log off ebaza ta learning skills.I oli diadikasia mou pire kana 2mino,alla parallila petousa kai cruisers,opote de bare8ika kai tooooso poly.To kalo einai oti pleon kanw training poly pio grigora,kai malista se kapoia fasi eixa 3eperasei se skillpoints 1-2 atoma pou eixan 3ekinisei na paizoun kana 2-3 mines prin apo mena,mono kai mono giati eixa kanei ta learning skills enw autoi oxi.

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2005, 02:57:26 PM »
Ok pros to parwn den xeiazete tpt mias kai to post tou blackdog ta eksigei olla opws panta kai einai 10 selides tis opoies barieme na diavasw  :grad:

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2005, 03:06:19 PM »
Maaaaaalistaaaaa.... Opote 3ekinaw to game, Ginomai Minmatar (profanws tha metraei gia PvP) pizw ton euato mou se Learning Skills kai kamia fora otan paizw rixnw kai kana Perception (combatoeidh apo oti katalava  gia na ginei endiaferon). Wraiaaaaaa.

Elpizw na me entypwsiasei to game wste na me krahsei  parapanw apo to trial kai na prolavw kai kamia maxh :P

Vasika, San Minmatar - Brutor den tha mou parei kati xronia na maxarw ta Learning skills mou? Mipws telika na 3ekinisw mia pio balanced race? kai kati allo, xrhma apo to PvP den tha vgazw kai ap'oti epiasa sto eve-online.com prepei na kaneis kai mining ktl. Tha xreiastw kai alla skills boosted loipon ee?

Ouf, kourastikos egina :P Nvm as 3ekinisw kai vlepoume. Thanx pantws, twra 3erw pws prp na 3ekinisw.

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2005, 04:01:28 PM »
Koita,i alli fyli twn minmatar (sebiestor) exei pio psila intel/mem apo to 3ekinima.Proswpika,den to metanoiwsa ka8olou pou diale3a brutor.Zorizesai me ta learning skills stin arxi alla meta eisai arketa kalos se oti training kai na kaneis,kai e3airetikos se pvp related skills. Exw perc 22 kai will 20 (i anapoda,de 8ymamai) xwris na exw implants,enw alloi paiktes bazoun +3 attribute implants gia na ftasoun tetoia noumera.

Me PvP ginetai na bgaleis lefta apo ta loot twn antipalwn,an kai syni8ws moirazontai se olo to gang i pane gia na kalypsoun tis apwleies oswn xasane ships. Pantws,ektos apo mining/industry,mporeis na bgaleis lefta apo missions kai npc hunting,kai auto kanoun syni8ws oi pio pvp prosanatolismenoi paiktes stin arxi,giati perilambanei combat kai einai auto sto opoio exoun kala skills. Min agxwnesai,an 3eperaseis to arxiko shock tou leveling sto gameden 8a exeis problima.

Oso gia lefta,i maza dinei ena arxiko kefalaio se olous tous neous paiktes gia na 3ekinisoun,me ta opoia 8a agoraseis ta prwta 1-2 sou ploia,kai ta arxika sou skills mexri na arxiseis na bgazeis monos sou kapoia xrimata.Epipleon,ta frigates einai ftina. Ena kalo frigate apo auta pou apaitoun to antistoixo skill sto lvl3 bgainei gyrw sta 500k mazi me ta opla kai ta modules pou 8a tou foreseis. Mia pou eisai minmatar,stin periptwsi sou milame gia to rifter. Auta einai pollaaaaa lefta gia kapoion pou molis 3ekinaei,alla oi pio palioi paiktes mporoun na ta bgaloun aneta se ena mono mission i apo enan mono NPC(oi NPC's genika einai pirates pou exoun bounty kai etsi bgazeis lefta an tous skotwneis).

Gia ti synexeia,to corporation sou parexei to 1o sou ship apo ka8e class dwrean,kai efoson prokeitai gia tech1 skafos kai oxi tech2.Genika ta tech2 einai beltiwmenes ekdoseis twn aplwn skafwn,alla apaitoun perissotera skills kai lefta.Auto simainei oti molis exeis ta skills 8a mas to peis kai 8a sou dwsoume lefta gia ena cruiser.Me auto 8a kaneis pio dyskoles apostoles me pio polla lefta kai paei legontas,sti synexeia 8a peraseis se battlecruiser kai meta se battleship.Endiamesa bebaia isws 8eleis na kaneis skills gia tech2 frigates,ta opoia episis einai arketa kala kai poly diaskedastika skafakia.

Pros to parwn mpes sto maza channel,kane join tin maza solutions corporation kai kane ta skills gia na mporeis na petas ena rifter me ta opla tou kai ena afterburner.Meta piase ta learning opws sou eipa prin kai stin poreia anebaze oti sou xreiazetai gia na bgazeis ta missions pou 8a kaneis.Stadiaka 8a peraseis sto cruiser me ta antistoixa opla. Oso anebazeis ta learning meine me to cruiser sou kai kane missions gia na bgaleis lefta.Apo to simeio pou 8a teleiwseis ta learning eisai anetos na kaneis pleon oti 8eleis.Welcome aboard kai kalo 3ekinima.

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2005, 04:17:18 PM »
Wraia mou akougontai ola auta psinomai!  :dancing-banana: To kako einai pws den vriskw trial syndromh telika :( gia na doume :rolleyes:

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2005, 04:21:57 PM »
re gia trial account dwse se enan to mail sou na sou steiloume mesw 'buddy program' 14 meres trial :wizard:
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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2005, 04:25:07 PM »
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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2005, 04:36:35 PM »
:/ cant help ya, den eimai active eve player

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Re: Character creation and first moments in Digital Space
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2005, 04:52:01 PM »
:/ cant help ya, den eimai active eve player


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