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Offline blackdog_kt

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Unofficial Guide
« on: October 07, 2005, 10:23:35 AM »
Epeidi 8ymamai poly kala pws einai na pigaineis prwti fora se megalo battle kai na min 3ereis kala kala ti simainei "align to next gate",kai efoson blepw arketo neo kosmo sto corp, skeftika na katsw kai na grapsw ena PvP guide me apla pragmatakia.

Einai teleiwmeno to miso atm epeidi eixa aypnies meta ti bradyni bardia sti douleia. Epeidi omws ais8anomai kai gw arketa teleiwmenos auti ti stigmi kai to brady exw na paw e3w, 8a to teleiwsw aurio (sabbato 7/10). 8a milisw me parity na to anebasoume kapou sto site, ena arxeio word einai xwris polla mpixlimpidia. Alla.....ekana sximatakia gia na e3igisw ta instas  :thumbs-up-nomi:

To guide 8a perilambanei tis e3is enotites se prwti fasi:
1.   Εισαγωγή
2.   Αναγκαία εφόδια
3.   Βασικές μέθοδοι μετακίνησης σε ομάδες
4.   Το Overview και πώς να το στήσετε
5.   Ο Χάρτης
6.   Aggression, δολώματα και ψάρια
7.   Το Scanner
8.   Επικοινωνία

Exw teleiwsei mexri to 3 pou einai kai to pio megalo. To aggression episis 8a parei ligi writsa, ta alla eina sxetika liga.

An kataferoume na baloume tous eidikous se ka8e ship class na grapsoun kati gia to ploio tous,kai efoson exw xrono 8a mou ta steiloun gia ligo editing kai 8a pros8esw ta e3is:
9.   Frigates
10.   Interceptors
11.   Assault Frigates
12.   Covert Ops Frigates
13.   Stealth Bombers
14.   Cruisers
15.   Heavy Assault Cruisers
16.   Logistics Cruisers
17.   Battleships

Ennoeitai oti 8a einai genika pragmata kai oxi sygkekrimena. Allwste mesa sto idio ship class yparxoun skafi me teleiws diaforetikous rolous kai den mporoume na grapsoume px ena guide gia ola ta battleships.


Auto grafotan edw kai paaaara poly kairo se  MS Word, alla exasa ta files otan crashare o palios mou diskos kai den egine pote upload. Gia na min spammaroume 500 topics sto forum, to guide pou 8a prospa8isw na grapsw gia to neo anougma tis Nostra 8a to balw edw. Episis, ta kefalaia 8a ta alla3w mallon, einai yperbolika analytika opws ta eixa prin. Auta pou lew na balw arxika, me kapoia merge kai pros8ikes, einai ta e3is:

1.   Το Overview και πώς να το στήσετε
2.   Βασικές μέθοδοι μετακίνησης σε ομάδες (gangs/fleets) - Χάρτης - Επικοινωνία και πώς λειτουργούμε σε Teamspeak/Ventrilo
3.   Αν δεν τρέχει αίμα, δεν τρέχει τίποτα
4.   Το Scanner
5.   Τυπικές διαδικασίες ασφάλειας σε 0.0

Apo ekei kai pera, gia ship setups mporoume na anoi3oume ena xwristo topic.
« Last Edit: October 18, 2006, 01:41:39 PM by blackdog_kt »

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Re: Unofficial Guide
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2006, 04:11:56 AM »
1.   Το Overview και πώς να το στήσετε

To Overview einai apo ta pio basika ergaleia gia to PvP. Mas boi8aei se auto pou oi 3enoi lene "situational awareness" i SA gia syntomia. To SA poly apla kerdizei maxes, so pay attention.

Katarxin, as sas pw ti exw egw kai pws ta stinoume etsi, kai apo ekei kai pera tropopoieite opws 8elete kai to diko sas overview.

Opws fainetai stin antistoixi eikona, exw 5 diaforetika overview settings. Auto pou onomazw 0.0 einai to geniko setting, to 0.0 no blues einai to idio alla xwris na fainontai friendlies, to BS deixnei mono battleships kai megalytera (px carriers,dreadnoughts) kai to support deixnei apo frigates mexri battlecruisers (BC gia syntomia). To celestial einai ka8ara gia navigation, deixnei mono stations,gates,planets kai moons. Gia mikra gangs kai close range fights, kalo einai na exoume kai ena setting pou deixnei mono ex8rika drones gia na mporoume na ta lockaroume kai na ta skotwnoume. Auto 8a fanei xrisimo otan kapoios px kanei scramble ena ex8riko BS kai tou bgalei drones. An mporeis na ta skotwseis grigora anti na fygeis, mporeis na kratiseis ton stoxo mexri na er8oun oi ypoloipoi na ton fane.

Pws to stinoume twra.... Kante ta me tin parakatw seira, giati to ka8e setting xrisimopoiei to proigoumeno kai etsi 8a teleiwsete pio grigora.

Arxika fortwnoume tis default ry8miseis.
Meta, apo ta overview settings pame stin tampela pou leei types, opws fainetai sto antistoixo screenshot. Ekei afairoume ta panta kai kratame mono ta e3is: Ola ta ship types, ta stargates gia na mporoume na prosanatolistoume otan kanoume align (8a poume meta ti einai auto), ta mobile warp disruptors, ta POS towers kai ta force fields/cynosural fields.

Telos, tous ex8rikous NPCs an 8elete alla MONO autous apo NPC, gia na blepoume an mas barane otan tin peftoume se kanenan sta belts. Prosoxi na bgalete ola ta sentry guns, tous NPC apo concord,faction navies, convoys klp.

Kanoume click sto trigwnaki katw apo ekei pou leei "presets" kai to kanoume save ws 0.0

Meta pame stin tampela pou leei states..8a deite auto pou fainetai stin antistoixi eikona.

Akyrwnete tis parakatw epiloges:
Pilot has good standing
Pilot has high standing
Pilot is in your alliance
Pilot is in your corporation
Pilot is in your gang

Diladi, otidipote einai friendly se mas DEN to blepoume. To kanoume save ws 0.0 no blues.
PROSOXI! To setting auto pianei OLA ta friendly antikeimena, opws drones, warp disruption bubbles klp. An px scannarete ena gate (argotera auta) gia bubbles kai to bubble to exei kanei anchor dikos mas, den 8a fanei sto scanner an exete epile3ei to scanner na douleuei me basi to overview setting. Parola auta, einai basiko na exoume overview settings xwris friendlies. Auto to kanoume gia na min lockaroume kai barame katala8os tous dikous mas sti maxi, gia na min laggaroume otan fortwnei to overview kai gia na exoume ligotera pragmata na psaxnoume gia ton stoxo pou mas lene na xtypisoume.

Sti synexeia, pame pali sto types, kratame mono battleships,freighters, carriers kai dreadnoughts kai to kanoume save ki auto ws BS. Me auto blepoume BS kai panw, kai mono an einai hostile i neutral (opou neutral=hostile pali  ;) )

Meta kanoume load pali to 0.0 no blues (auto 8a fortwsei to setting pou deixnei ola ta enemy ships),pame pali sto types kai kratame mono ta frigates/elite frigates, cruisers/elite cruisers, BCs/elite BCs kai to kanoume save ws support. Genika support 8ewreitai se ena fleet oti einai mikrotero apo BS.

Telos, fortwnoume pali to default setting, akyrwnoume ola ta types kai kratame mono planets,moons,stations kai gates kai to swzoume ws celestial.

Episis, kante an 8elete kai to setting pou deixnei mono hostile drones opws eipame parapanw. Afaireite pali tous friendlies apo ta states kai afaireite ta panta apo ta types ektos apo ta drones.

Twra oso afora tis stiles tou overview kai to pia xrwmata bazete gia good kai bad standing, auta einai proswpikes protimiseis tou ka8enos. Egw me analysi 1280x960 (window mode) exw 5 stiles kai idi to overview einai megaloutsiko: Icon, Distance, Name, Velocity, Transversal Velocity.

Ta 4 prwta einai aparaitita gia na blepete ti mege8os exei o stoxos apo to eikonidio, an einai mesa sto range twn oplwn/modules sas, na briskete ton primary target pou dinei o leader kai na blepete poso grigora kineitai. Se long range maxes kai an petate me BS, mporeite na paraleipsete ta velocity kai transversal. Kata 99% 8a exete mono antipala BS sto overview, 8a kanete ta3inomisi me basi to onoma gia na briskete tous stoxous pou sas lene (click panw sto onoma mias stilis ta3inomei kata au3ousa seire me basi auti ti stili, 2o click ta3inomei kata f8inousa seira) kai outws i allws olo to fleet 8a einai aligned se kapoio sygkekrimeno simeio asxeta apo to transversal pou prokyptei. Se tetoies periptwseis kalo einai na kratate ta apolytws aparaitita, eidika efoson ka8e stili tou overview einai ena swro epipleon data gia na sas steilei o server kai synepagetai au3imeno lag.

Ekei pou xreiazetai na blepete velocity einai se close range maxes me mikra-mesaia gangs. Einai ligo poly san aeromaxia i katastasi, opote kalo einai na mporeite na krinete ti plisiazei,ti feugei kai poso grigora ginetai auto.

Oso gia to transversal twra...auto einai i efaptomeniki synistwsa tis taxytitas sas se sxesi me ton stoxo. Se pio apla logia? An kanete orbit enan stoxo apo aristera pros ta de3ia, einai ena dianysma efaptomeno ston kyklo pou "kobei" to orbit sas me arxi panta to ship sas kai de3iostrofi fora. Oso megalytero einai to transversal, toso perissotero dyskoleueste na petyxete o enas ton allo. Apo ka8ara fysikis apopsis ena frigate pou kanei orbit ena BS den 8a eprepe na "blepei" to idio transversal pou blepei to BS stoxos, alla epeidi ta physics tou EvE einai ligo aplopoiimena "blepoun" kai oi 2 to idio. To 8ema edw einai oti logw tracking ena megalytero skafos dyskoleuetai na petyxei ena mikrotero pou to kanei orbit, enw to mikrotero petyxainei kanonika. Px, ena rifter kanei orbit ena apocalypse sta 5 km kai sto overview to transversal leei 200 m/sec. To apocalypse de 8a petyxei sxedon pote to rifter, enw to rifter 8a petyxainei sxedon synexws.

Einai loipon fanero, oti i xrisi tou transversal velocity einai epibeblimeni se osous petane ships pou a) einai eu8rausta b) einai omws kai grigora kai c) exoun skopo na pianoun tous antipalous me web kai scramble, diladi einai tacklers opws leme.
Auto einai to 1o pragma pou kanei kapoios neos sto PvP, opote osoi diabazete auto to guide mallon 8a xreiastei na exete energopoiimeno to transversal sto overview sas  ;)

Ypopsin oti oi stiles tou overview einai ane3artites apo ta settings pou perigrapsame prin (states/types) kai diatirountai xwirs na xreiazetai save mexri tin epomeni fora pou 8a tis alla3ete. Ara, mporeite na pros8etete kai na afaireite stiles apo tin etiketa "columns" sto overview settings opote 8elete. I seira me tin opoia emfanizontai oi stiles apo aristera pros ta de3ia, einai i seira pou exoun sto "colunms" apo panw ws katw. An 8elete na tin alla3ete, epilegete ena column apo tis ry8miseis kai patate "move up" i "move down" gia na dwsete proteraiotita emfanisis sti stili pou 8elete.
 
Meta apo auto, eiste etoimoi na kinei8ite se ena gang exontas sti dia8esi sas mia seira apo overview settings gia sxedon ka8e peristasi. To pws kinoumaste 8a to poume sto epomeno post  :cool:

« Last Edit: October 18, 2006, 01:04:53 PM by blackdog_kt »

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Re: Unofficial Guide
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2006, 04:15:44 AM »
2.   Βασικές μέθοδοι μετακίνησης σε ομάδες (gangs/fleets) - Χάρτης - Επικοινωνία και πώς λειτουργούμε σε Teamspeak/Ventrilo

Exontas ena stimeno overview gia tis metakiniseis mas, mporoume pleon na 3ekinisoume na boltaroume.

Katarxin, as diaxwrisoume ta dyo basika eidi gangs pou yparxoun sto paixnidi.

Otan prokeitai gia gang mesaiou mege8ous kai panw, pou periexei ola ta mege8i ships, i apla periexei kyriws i apokleistika BS, tote milame gia fleet. Fleet mporei na einai apo 20 BS kai panw as poume, kyriws me long range setups (sniping), mexri ta lag machine fleets me 100+ ships, stin pleiopsifia BS, alla kai mikrotera skafi se rolo ypostiri3is (support), apo frigates gia scouts kai tacklers mexri antifrigate ships (px cruisers,HACs) kai command ships (tech2 BCs) gia ta gang bonus pou dinoun.

Apo tin alli pleura, otan exoume gangs pou periexoune sxedon 100% ships katw apo mege8os BS, milame gia roaming gangs, i apla ganksquads. Edw mporei na exoume apla apo 5-10 frigates, mexri groups apo interceptors, HACs kai to poly 4-5 BS me close range+tank setups alla auto to teleutaio einai spanio.

O skopos tou fleet apo epi8etikis apopsis einai syni8ws na katastrefei alla fleets, na katalambanei systems (ypostirizontas ta dreadnoughts pou barane ta ex8rika POS) kai genika na orgwnei otidipote sto perasma tou. Apo amyntikis apopsis, einai poly xrisimo (kai poly bareto episis) sto na kleineis diodous kanontas gatecamps. An exeis px mia 50aria BS se sniping range apo ena gate kai interdictors/bubbles sto gate, mporeis na "kleiseis" to system kai 8a prepei o ex8ros na er8ei me isa3ia dynami pyros gia na se diw3ei.

Apo tin alli meria, ta ganksquads einai kyriws epi8etiko ergaleio. Syni8ws apofeugetai i xrisi BS giati einai poly arga gia na akolou8isoun swsta kai ka8ysteroun to gang. Ena tetoio roaming gang syni8ws kobei diadromes mesa se ex8riko space kai epiti8etai ston anefodiasmo kai to isk making tou antipalou. I megali tou dynami einai oti exei megali eueli3ia pou tou dinei ti dynatotita na epilegei ton stoxo kai tis syn8ikes tis maxis. Se ena typiko roaming operation mporoume na exoume ena gang 20 atomwn me 5-7 frigates,1 covert ops, 2-3 recon ships kai ta ypoloipa HACs. O leader anoigei to map, blepei ena ex8riko system me poly kosmo kai bazoume destination gia ekei. Syni8eis apostaseis einai apo 10-20 jumps ews oso ante3oume prin arxisei o kosmos na tin peftei gia ypno. Tis perissoteres fores prokyptoun 4-5 eukola kills apenanti se aprosektous NPCers, kai meta eite krybontai, eite fernoun perissotero kosmo apo mas me megalytera ships gia na mas skotwsoun i na mas kleisoun mesa se kapoio system kanontas camp ta gates. Edw paizei rolo o leader kai o scout, an einai kaloi mporei to gang na synexisei na pairnei kills akoma kai outnumbered, dimiourgwntas topiki ari8mitiki yperoxi. PX, an eimaste 30 atoma kai oi ex8roi exoun 50 kai se megalytera ships, den kanoume ntou isia kata panw tous. Apla perimenoume ton ena pou 8a apokopei apo to kopadi kai skotwnoume ekeinon. Otan ta pragmata arxisoun na ginontai zorika tin kanoume kai pame se allo system. Einai to pio diaskedastiko style PvP gia mena, san na blepeis mia ageli lykous na kynigane.  ;)

As doume twra pws metakinoumaste. Auto einai arketa eukolo, apla anoigoume to map i to people and places (protimw to 2o gia na blepw kai ti ginetai gyrw mou) kanoume search gia to zitoumeno system kai bazoume set destination i add waypoint, analoga me tis odigies tou leader. To gang mazeuetai se ena proka8orismeno simeio kai 3ekiname. Edw xreiazetai to align pou exoume anaferei pio prin. Epeidi ta ships sto EvE den exoun tin idia eueli3ia, anti na kanei warp o ka8enas monos tou pros to epomeno gate, kanei olo to gang mazi. Gia na mpainoun omws oloi mazi se warp, prepei na einai idi eu8ygrammismenoi (aligned) me to antistoixo gate. Auto ginetai apla an gyrisoume tin camera mexri na doume to zitoumeno gate kai kanoume diplo click dipla sto eikonidio tou gate. O leader perimeni ligo mexri na einai oloi aligned kai mas kanei gang warp sto gate, syni8ws me ti xrisi instajump bookmark pou mas bgazei apeu8eias se jump range.

Twra ti kanoume me to jump. Jump kanoume analoga me tis odigies tou leader. An kinoumaste se perioxi pou 3eroume oti einai ka8ari apo targets, o leader 8a mas pei "jump on contact", diladi kanoume jump amesws molis bgoume apo warp. Yparxei panta enas anixneutis (scout) pou trexei 1-2 jumps mprosta apo to fleet kai mas leei ti brisketai mprosta mas, wste na mporoume na pigainoume pio grigora (kai aprosekta) an o dromos einai ka8aros. Se periptwsi pou den symbainei auto, o leader apla 8a pei "hold on the gate" kai den kanei jump KA-NE-NAS APOLYTWS. An kanei jump kapoios tin la8os stigmi, auto mporei na tou kostisei apo 500k (ena aplo tech1 frigate) mexri polla ekatommyria isk (BS me tech2 opla kai ena pod gemato implants), ka8ws kai na prodwsei ti 8esi tou gang me oti auto synepagetai (px epipleon apwleies i na xanoume kills giati tous tromazoume kai feugoun). Perissotera gia to combat skelos 8a poume sto epomeno kefalaio, opou mazi me to aggression 8a kalypsoume kai pws einai kalo na petame to ship mas se mia katastasi maxis analoga me to eidos tou ship, ton rolo mas sto gang kai ta opla pou forame.

PROSOXI An 8ymaste, eixa pei oti einai kalo na bazoume ta stargates na fainontai sto overview. Auto einai kalo genika gia na 3eroume posa AU einai apo ekei pou eimaste mexri to gate (px to paizei dolwma enas dikos mas kai prepei na ektimisoume se posi wra mporoume na ftasoume to gate, na kanoume jump stin alli meria kai na kanoume to kill). Kyriws, einai xrisimo gia ti metakinisi. Afou balete to destination pou dinei o leader, kleiste kai 3ananoi3te to overview gia na kanei refresh. 8a deite pws to epomeno gate pros ton proorismo 8a exei to eikonidio tou sto overview xrwmatismeno kitrino. Kanete click sto onoma tou "kitrinou" gate apo to overview kai psaxnete tis akres tis o8onis sas gia ena mikro tetragwno eikonidio me to onoma tou gate. Afou to entopisete, gyrnate tin kamera pros ta ekei mexri na to blepete ka8ara stin o8oni sas, kanete diplo click dipla sto gate kai voila...3ekinisate na kanete align.

As poume twra dyo logia gia to map tou paixnidiou. Polles fores 8a tyxei na mpeite sto game kai na ma8ete oti olo to corp einai se combat operation 20 jump makrya sas. Anti na ka8este kai na ta 3ynete, fantazomai pws 8a 8elete na tre3ete na tous prolabete. Edw den xreaizontai align kai tetoia kolpa efoson kapoios ta3ideuei monos tou. Auto pou xreiazetai einai ena grigoro skafos (frigates, interceptors kai kapoia sygkekrimena cruisers) gia na exete tin eukairia na perasete apo tyxon ex8rikes sygkentrwseis xwris na pe8anete. Episis, xreiazontai bookmarks gia tin perioxi pou 8a kinei8ite, liges plirofories apo ta ypoloipa paidia (rwtiste apla an synantisan tipota idiaitero sti diadromi) kai telos, na ri3ete mia matia sto map prin 3ekinisete. Afou balete to destination sas loipon, anoi3te to map kai sto control panel tou patiste to tab "display settings" kai apo katw click sto tab "world information". Edw sas endiaferoun 5 pragmatakia:

Average pilots in space in the last 30 minutes
Number of pilots docked and active
Jumps in the last hour
Ships destroyed in the last 1 hour
Escape pods destroyed in the last 1 hour

Ta 2 prwta einai gia na deite posos kosmos einai undocked kai docked antistoixa (an yparxei station ekei pou pate).
To 3o den to koitaw poly syxna, alla einai kalo gia na deite an kykloforei kaneis. Mporei ta teleutaia 30 lepta na einai adeia ta systems pou 8a perasete kai me to 1o filter na mi deite tipota, alla isws na yparxei ena ex8riko gang 20 atomwn pou peripolei misi wra se auta kai misi se kapoia alla pou einai ektos tis diadromis sas. Me to 3o filter loipon "koboume kinisi"  ;)

Ta 2 teleutaia einai episis basika, idiaitera an prokeita gia chokepoint systems. Chokepoint leme to 0.0 system mias perioxis pou synoreuei apeu8eias me ena empire system (empire systems einai ola osa den einai 0.0), epeidi ekei syni8ws ginontai gatecamps apo osous 8eloun na kleisoun to space tous i na skotwsoun osous ta3ideuoun pros kapoio sygkekrimeno 0.0 region.
Px, 3akousto chokepoint einai to PF-346 me 0.0 security rating. Einai mia apo tis 3 eisodous sto Syndicate region kai brisketai dipla apo to Orvolle (Placid Region, empire system me 0.7 security rating).
An me to 4o filter deite megali kokkini koukida se kapoio system tis diadromis sas etoimasteite gia to xeirotero, ka8ws einai karampinati endei3i kapoiou gatecamp. Episis, an deite oti exoun katastrafei kai arketa pods, milame gia kala organwmeno camp, eite me interdictor/bubble eite me interceptors pou exoun poly grigoro lock gia na pianoun ta pods.

Se tetoia periptwsi rwtate sto corp/alliance chat na sas pou ti symbainei (den einai ka8olou api8ano to gatecamp na einai kai diko mas  :cool: ) kai apofasizete analogws, i prospa8eite na breite mia enallaktiki diadromi pou na pernaei apo pio irema systems.

Telos, dyo logakia gia ta voice comms. Otan pame PvP einai ypoxrewtiko na eimaste syndedemenoi me kapoio programma fwnitikis epikoinwnias. Auto pou ekane i Maza apo palia itan na xrisimopoiei Teamspeak ston diko tis server gia na milame ellinika kai ventrillo ston server tou alliance gia na milame me tous allodapous filous mas  :P
Isws na akougetai yperboli gia kapoious, alla xwris voice comms pvp de ginetai. Exei dokimastei kai den pianei. An parola auta anysixeite min enoxlisete syggeneis/sygkatoikous sto spiti, mporeite me ena penixro kostos tis ta3is twn 10-20 Euro na apoktisete ena zeugari akoustika me enswmatwmeno mikrofwno. Kai gw de menw monos mou, alla den exw problima me ta voice comms. Mporei ontws stis 4 to prwi na min milaw, alla mporw na akouw oles tis entoles tou leader xwris na enoxlw kanenan kai auto einai to basikotero.

Auto mas fernei sto basiko kanona oso afora tin "pei8arxia" sta voice comms. De milaei kanenas an den ton rwtisoun prwta. Otan den kanoume PvP milame olio mazi kai kanoume oso xabale 8eloume, otan paizei 3ylo omws milane to poly 2-3 atoma, o leader kai oi scouts. Sto gang chat grafoume mono oti exei sxesi me tin maxi kai de spammaroume asxeta. An logw wras den mporei kapoios na milisei sto TS/Ventrilo, akouei me ta akoustika tou kai apantaei sto gangchat, episis ekei oi scouts grafoun polles fores posa kai ti ships exei o ex8ros, poios 8a einai o prwtos stoxos klp, opote kalo einai na min grafoume oti na'nai. Gia to xabale yparxei to maza channel kai to corp chat  ;)

Telos, kalo einai otan symbainei kati pou prepei na anakoinw8ei, na lete kai poios eiste. To na fwnazei kaneis "i'm dyyyyyying warp to me, warp to meeeee" den boi8aei kanenan. Meinete psyxraimoi kai peite ka8ara gia paradeigma, "This is Blackdog, help, i'm scrambled by a crow and have a dominix on me". Mesa se 5 seconds o gang leader 3erei se poion na kanoun warp oi enisxyseis kai ti exei na antimetwpisei, opote stelnei kai ta katallila ships na mas bgaloun apo tin dyskoli 8esi. Episis, kalo einai na exete mia ais8isi tou poso simantika einai ta losses tou ka8e paikti. Auto pou kanoume einai na leitourgoume panta san omada, synepws, to megalytero/akribotero skafos exei panta proteraiotita an bre8ei sta dyskola kai boi8ame ekeino.

Episis, se megales maxes den fwnazoume oti pe8ainoume gia na min diakopsoume ton leader pou leei ti targets 8a xtypane oi ypoloipoi. O leader syni8ws paizei me tin camera terma zoomed out kai blepei an to gang mas metakomizei siga siga pros to safespot, opote molis kanoun oloi warp out apo ti maxi (ypo8etontas oti mas anagkasane na to baloume sta podia) 8a mas rwtisoun posoi pe8anan kai ti exase o ka8enas wste na doume an exoume firepower gia mia deuteri prospa8eia. Auto einai kyriws gia ta fleets, giati se ganksquads syni8ws i epikoinwnia einai pio reusti. Syni8ws ganksquads simainei close range (apo 500m ws 30km to poly), opote yparxoun sygkekrimena problimata pou mas dimiourgei o ex8ros kai prepei na antimetwpistoun. Scramblers, webs, nosferatu kai drones einai merika apo auta. Ekei den einai kaki idea na zitame boi8eia kata ti diarkeia tis maxis, px an mas exei kanei scramble/web ena frigate kai pe8ainoume, zitame an mporei kapoios na to skotwsei sta grigora gia na mporesoume na fygoume, px: "This is Blackdog, someone get [onoma tou ex8rou] off me, it's a taranis"

Auta gia to gang movement, to map kai ta voice comms. Sto epomeno kefalaio 8a poume merika pragmatakia gia to zoumi tis olis ypo8esis, pws skotwnoume allous paiktes kai tous kleboume to loot :evil:
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2006, 04:18:22 AM »
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Edw 8a anafer8oume sto kyriws piato tou PvP...ton skotwmo  :cool:

Exoume dei mexri twra pws apoktame epignwsi tis taktikis katastasis (situational awareness) kai pws filtraroume tis plirofories pou mas xreiazontai me to overview, pws metakinoumaste apo to ena meros sto allo me gang i monoi mas, pws mporoume apo to map na doume pi8anous kindynous stin poreia mas kai pws prepei na synnenooumaste me tous symmaxous mas. Episis, exoume anaferei kapoies basikes morfes kai syn8eseis pou mporei na exei ena gang.

Synexizontas loipon, as doume tous rolous mesa se ena gang. An prokeitai gia fleet, exoume se rolo damage dealer ta BS kai se rolo support ola ta ypoloipa ships. Support simainei oti kratame ta antipala tacklers(douleia gia HACs,cruisers, Assault Frigates, destroyers) makrya apo ta BS mas enw ta dika mas tacklers pianoun ta ex8rika BS (douleia gia frigates,interceptors,interdictors).

Episis, douleia twn support (syni8ws interceptors i covert ops se auti tin periptwsi) einai na trexoun mprosta apo to fleet se rolo anixneuti (scout) kai na boi8ane stin kinisi tou fleet me slingshots. Ti einai auto? Metafrasmeno sta ellinika simainei sfentona. Otan mas leipei kapoio bookmark apo ena gate se kapoio allo, ena mikro kai grigoro ship analambanei na leitourgisei ws kinito bookmark gia na bgalei olo to fleet se jump range apo to gate. Auto einai poly aplo na ginei, apla kanoume warp sto gate apo ekei pou eimaste, proxwrame alla 12-15km stin idia eu8eia pou eimaste molis bgoume apo warp, stamatame to ship mas kai leme sto fleet na kanei warp epanw mas: "This is Listarxos Ntabelis, you can warp to me for slingshot". Tote to gang kanei de3i click sto onoma mas sto gang chat kai epilegei warp to member se range idio me tin apostasi pou exoume prosperasei to gate kanontas to sling. Otan kanoume slings ennoeitai panta 15km, an gia kapoio logo 3efygame kai prepei na kanoun warp se alli apostasi tous to leme. De xreiazetai na eimaste just sta 15km, to 8ema einai to fleet na bgei sta 2.5km apo to gate gia na einai se jump range. Ara, exoume peri8wrio na prosperasoume to gate apo 12.5km mexri 17.5km gia ena slingshot me warp sta 15km.

Se mikrotera gangs pou syni8ws den exoun BS, opws ta ganksquads, damage dealers 8ewrountai ta ships pou kanoun to perissotero damage (surpsrise eh?). Panw katw isxyoun ta idia, alla einai pali pio reusta apo oti sta fleets.Px ena vagabond (minmatar heavy assault cruiser) se ganksquad mporei kallista na pai3ei san scout, san tackler kai san damage dealer tautoxrona. Alli periptwsi einai na exoume ena gang mono me frigates, interceptors kai assault frigates xwris kan cruisers mazi mas. Genika pantws, ta ships pou 8ewrountai damage dealers einai to alpha kai to omega tou firepower sto gang, ta ypoloipa pou 8ewrountai support kanoun oti pernaei apo to xeri tous gia na dieukolynoun kai na prostateuoun tous damage dealers.

Epeidi to prwto stadio enos neou PvPer einai auto tou support, syni8ws se rolo tackler, 8a perioristoume se auto kai siga siga apoktwntas empeiria opoios 8elei 8a rwtaei kai 8a peiramatizetai me megalytera kai akribotera ships.

As piasoume ena ypo8etiko senario loipon. Eimaste oloi mazi se ena operation sto 0.0 me ena roaming gang gyrw sta 10 atoma. Exoume scout mprosta, proxwrame kai kapoia stigmi mas leei o scout oti exei brei ena stoxo...ena BS pou kanei NPC hunting se kapoio belt. Syni8ws to gang perimenei ena system prin ton stoxo gia na min ton troma3oume, alla tautoxrona se jump range sto katallilo gate wste na mpoume na paroume to kill molis einai ola etoima. 8a mou peite, pws 8a ton troma3oume me to na mpoume apla sto system? Diabaste parakatw tin e3is...

Simantiki Episimansi: Na 8ymaste panta oti sto local chat fainontai oloi oi paiktes pou briskontai sto idio system me mas. Sto empire auto mporei na min leei polla, giati ta perissotera systems exoun apo merikes 10ades mexri merikes 100ades atoma. Sto 0.0 omws einai poly pio adeia ta systems kai me to pou mpainei kapoios sto local, i prwti kinisi olwn einai na kanoun show info gia na doun an einai filos i ex8ros. To idio 8a prepei na sas ginei kai sas syni8eia. Episis, sto 0.0 den yparxoun neutrals. Epeidi einai para polli fasaria na dineis arnitika standing ston ka8ena pou se xtypaei, polloi paiktes edw kai 1-2 xronia 8ewroun osous den exoun 8etika standings ws ex8rous. Fysika, auto to fainomeno pairnei ti morfi xionostibadas, giati katarxin oi 8eseis gia na bazeis standings einai periorismenes kai epipleon, esy mporei na mi xtypas neutrals alla mporei na se xtypane autoi. Opote, opoios den exei 8etika standings mazi mas sto 0.0 8ewreitai pi8anos kindynos kai stoxos.

An o scout mas einai se covert ops (pou syin8ws einai, ektos an exei kammeni karta grafikwn...hi Feta  :P ) logika 8a plisiasei aoratos ton stoxo kai 8a mas dwsei ena warp in point (opws me ta slingshot) tetoio wste na bgoume mesa se scrambler range kai na ton piasoume. Otan einai etoimos kai mas to pei, 8a kanoume jump kai warp panw tou, epilegoume ton stoxo apo to overview, kanoume lock,orbit kai anoigoume prwta to scrambler, meta to web kai meta ta opla mas. An exoume problima prospa8oume na 3efygoume (kanoume warp se kapoio planet...PROSOXI min pate se moons, an exei ex8riko POS 8a sas xtypisei kai 8a pe8anete). Apo ekei kai pera, xazeuoume ta omorfa fwtakia mexri o stoxos na pe8anei  :P

Alli syni8ismeni taktiki einai na stelnoume ena dolwma. Enas paiktis me kapoio BS syni8ws kai poly tank, o opoios 8a kanei jump sti mesi enos ex8rikou camp gia na tous parei aggression opws leme. Ti einai auto? Poly apla, an kapoios energopoiisei epi8etiko module se kapoion allo paikti, gia ta epomena 30 seconds den mporei na kanei dock se station oute jump se stargate. Opote, to dolwma mpainei mesa kai molis arxisoun oloi na ton xtypane mas to leei, kanoume jump kai meis kai tous kanoume scramble gia na tous skotwsoume. Efoson einai aggressed den mporoun na kanoun jump gia 30 seconds, an einai scrambled den mporoun na kanoun warp out, opote anagkastika ka8ontai na polemisoun.

Prosoxi me to aggression se low security empire (0.1 me 0.4). An kanete aggress ekei, eiste criminally flagged gia 15 lepta. Auto simainei oti sas xtypaei opoios 8elei xwris na xanei security status, sas xtypane ta sentry guns se gates kai stations kai an kanete to la8os na kanete jump se 0.5 kai panw 8a emfanistei i concord kai 8a sas skoupisei. Ypopsin oti ka8e fora pou xtypate kapoio kainourio stoxo se low sec, i ka8e fora pou sas xtypane sentry guns oso eiste criminally flagged to timer kanei reset 3ana sta 15 lepta. Opote, eite metakinoumaste apo to ena safespot sto allo gia 15 lepta, eite kanoume dock se kapoio station kai perimenoume ekei (efoson exoun perasei 30 seconds apo to aggression kai to ship mas antexei na ftasei se docking range enw to barane ta sentries).

Sto epomeno edit autou tou post 8a poume kapoia pragmatakia gia ta opla, se poio range kanoume orbit enan stoxo kai pws plisiazoume ena megalytero ship apo emas xwris na mporesei na mas skotwsei. Stay tuned  ;)
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2006, 07:10:57 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2006, 09:10:53 PM »
Bump!

Ante, diabaste na 3estrabw8eite kai perimenw apories oso grafw gia na peftei kai kanena edit :)

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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2006, 10:42:07 PM »
re nooba, ta screenshots tou eve, anoije ta me to paint, kanta save ws jpeg, kane ta host sto www.imageshack.us k postare ta sto forum ws : thumbnail for forums.

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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2006, 02:05:35 AM »
Einai idi jpg, apla i8ela na eimai enswmatwmena sto post gia na ta kanei apeu8eias download opoios 8elei, den exei popups kai epipleon sto imageshack polles fores peftei resize kai bgainoun pio 8ola.

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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2006, 07:25:12 AM »
Sou arese to paradeigma-screenshot by the way? :D :D

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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2006, 09:27:46 AM »
Itan toso anamenomeno pou den asxoli8ika kan....me to pou eida roz sto thumbnail fantastika kai ti peripou 8a egrafe,lol

Btw, min to pareis proswpika alla o dialogos mas autos prepei na faei moderate. Mono to guide, apories kai protaseis plz, grash kane to koumanto :p

Synexeia epetai molis paw spiti kai koimi8w ligaki, 8a grapsw merika akoma. Peite sta paidia na to diabazoun siga siga gia na mas lene an kati den katalaban i 8eloun na pros8esoume tipota.

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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2006, 09:44:20 AM »
Outws H' allws, otan jana-anevei to mazanet.gr 8a xa8oun ola auta, elpizo na exeis parei back-up..

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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2006, 10:45:01 AM »
That is a given, young Padawan!

In times of need, we never underestimate the balance a backup can bring to the force.

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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2006, 07:05:54 PM »
Oraio guide blacky! keep writting  ;)

Exo tin adeia sou kai tin adeia tis maza na to valo kai stin PlayPedia?

PS1: Tosos kopos omos re sy...giati den to grafes me ellinikous char?
PS2: Akoma perimeno tin parousiasi tis MAZA btw...min ksexniomaste  :evil: