Fuck You SOE

[Fried_Yoda]

I just want to take up my little corner in this forum to say FUCK YOU to SOE for fucking up an amazing game (Star Wars Galaxies). I've played since launch. I survived the nerfs. I even survived the Combat Upgrade. But this NGE bullshit is unbearable. Their reasoning is that they want to expand to a larger and fresher community in the council gaming world. The way they made it now, they're gonna be expanding their community to mentally retarded fuckheads. Fuck you SOE. I hope your entire staff gets assraped by donkeys. Malakismenoi...

/flame off

[Db0]

Επειδή δεν ασχολούμαι με το άθλημα. Τι ακριβώς έγινε;

[Derekian]

What Historian said

[SoSp]

Kati exw akousei alla den eimai sigouros.

Eixa akousei oti p.x gia na gineis jedi eprepe o xarakthra sou na exei kapia efesh/syndesh/eyaisthisia stin Force, kati pou htan random ana character creation. Tora mou fainete kati ekane h SOE kai mporei o opoiosdipote na ginei jedi.

Mporei na einia mparoufes ayta pou lew alla kati tetoio exw akousei, forgive me if Im wrong.

[Fried_Yoda]

To paixnidi eitane telio mia fora kai enan kairo. Ypyrxan 27 epaggelmata, "skill-based combat," "player-based economy," kai xilia alla pragmata. Meta apo dyo xronia, kanane ena "combat upgrade" pou kalyterepse to paixnidi. Apla allaxe to "combat system." Den allaxe pos paizete to paixnidi. Stin arxi, gia na gineis Jedi, eprepe na matheis diaforetika eppagelmata mexri na vreis to katalylo epaggelma pou sou deinei to Jedi. To 2004 allaksane to systima kai ekanan to Jedi epaggelma "quest oriented." Eprepe na kaneis quests gia na mporeis na mpeis se ena xwrio, kai meta na kaneis ena quest kathe mina gia 6 mines na apoktyseis Jedi. Ola pygainan kala. Arxes Noemvriou, vgike to trito "expansion" (Trials of Obi Wan) pou mas efere ton planiti Mustafar me polla quests, bug-fixes, kai "content" gia merika eppagelmata pou xreiazotane na ftiaxtoun. Oi SOE mas yposxethike oti tha mas eferne ena Smuggler Revamp, Ranger Revamp, kai Creature Handler revamp. To Ranger revamp eftase mexri to Test Center, kai mas eixan dyksei akrivos ti tha allazan me ta alla dyo. Ksafnika, tin mera meta to Trials of Obi Wan, mas lei enas malakas apo to LucasArts oti se 15 meres tha allaksoun OLO to paixnidi me New Game Enhancements (NGE). Oi SOE vgike meta me tis leptomeries. Ta 27 epaggelmata tha ta esvinan. Mono 9 tha meinoun. Olokriro to "skill-based combat system" pige sta skoupidia kai to kanane san ena ftino FPS. Osoi ixan apoktysei Jedi me mines kai mines douleia katastrafikan, giati to Jedi tora egine ena apo ta 9 epaggelmata pou mporeis na paixeis apo tin arxi. Oi oikonomia tou paxnidiou katastrafike, giati ekanan ola ta proionta pou mporouse na vgalei kathe oikonomiko epaggelma axrista. To "loot" einai xilies fores kalytero apo oti na ftiaksei enas paixtis. Mexri kai o Proedros tis SOE eirthe kai mas eipai oti afierosan OLOUS tous paixtes pou exoun tora me elpides oti that feroun tetraplasious paixtes sto paixnidi apo to PS3. To server mou den exei meinei toso adeio pote. pano apo 300 paiktes exoun fygei apo to server mou. Kai kathe mera to noumero afto anevenei. Oti apoktysa ta teleftaia 2 xronia peiran ton poulo. Mas gamisan gera.

[PlutoNick]

gia soe exw akousei ta xeirotera. megali malakia ola auta pou les.
xwris na tous dikaiologo, skeftikes omos oti isws to game den itan viosimo outos h allos. oti an den ta ekanan auta gia na feroun neous paiktes, 8a anagazontan na to kleisoun. den 8a itan to proto game pou 8a eklinan

[Ardenas]

SoE is for the pouts.

EQ2 Sucks Dick hard too.

[Derekian]

SoE sux indeed....they destroyed PlanetSide too the fuckers and it was such an awesome game..the first MMOFPS.....if you think about it they've had some excellent games but they've ruined them for the majority of their gamers

[Fried_Yoda]

gia soe exw akousei ta xeirotera. megali malakia ola auta pou les.
xwris na tous dikaiologo, skeftikes omos oti isws to game den itan viosimo outos h allos. oti an den ta ekanan auta gia na feroun neous paiktes, 8a anagazontan na to kleisoun. den 8a itan to proto game pou 8a eklinan

[Cruces]

basika h soe kanei oti mporei gia na bgalei lefta, ligous mhnes afou efuga apo to eq2 (nai o 8eos mou edwse fwthsh) akousa gia ta nea metra gia na katapolemhsoun to gegonos pws pouliontousan antikeimena kai lefta mesw internet gia alh8hna lefta. To metro tous htan o kapitalistikos server(etsi ton lew) opou opoios empaine mporouse na plhrwsei thn soe gia na tou poulhsei items...auta einai, ante na to kanei kai h bliz auto mpas kai dw pote mou to felstriker mou

[FFGR]

SOE = Ma$$ leftakia kai den tous niazei tpt
Opio atomo kai na rwtiseis auto 8a sou pei, idiaitera ama exei paiksei ena game tous
O Derek to exei zisei me to PS, egw to eida kata meros sto PS pou epeza gia enan mina (ali8ines diafimiseis ingame, ffs) kai polla atoma itan aganaktismenoi sto SWG gia arketo kairo, to oti gamisan teleiws itan anamenomeno, afou 8eloun perisotera leftakia gia tin kolotsepi tous ka8ws iparxei kai to ksepoulima pou kanoun se ka8e expansion pou bgazoun (items tsampa me ena expansion pou kanonika 8a eprepe na ksodepseis isws kai mines gia na ta vreis)
To xeirotero einai i diagrafi teleiws twn atomwn pou goustaran na paizoun tous Beast Tamers, afou me to expansion pou tous edwsan arketa kala items kai arketoi to perimenan, meta bgenoun kai tous lene "8a kanoume to game 9 mono klaseis kai eseis pou eiste Beast Tamers den 8a eiste mesa se autes giati eiste to 1% mono"

Me to NGE dinete ena item pou mporeis na allakseis tin class sou se mia apo tis kainourgies gia na tis dokimaseis (fisika i 9i einai i teliki =p )

[Kaju]

Έχω μιλήσει με αρκετό κόσμο για το SWG και από ότι κατάλαβα η ιστορία πήγε ως εξής:

Αρχικά το παιχνίδι ήταν σχεδιασμένο για μεγαλύτερες ηλικίες. Τα πράγματα πήγαιναν καλά μέχρι το Combat upgrade.
Το Combat upgrade to μίσησαν όλοι και τώρα η Sony, βλέποντας ότι δεν είναι αποδεκτό αποφάσισε να ξανακάνει το παιχνίδι από την αρχή.
Ουσιαστήκα:

-Sony: We made a game.
-Players: We like it.
-Sony: We changed the combat system.
-Players: It sucks.
-Sony: We fucked up.
-Players: Yes you did.
-Sony: Here you go, we remade the game.
-Players: WTF? Nooo %$@)(%^@

Ναι ήταν εκ βάθρων αλλαγή, αλλά εγώ προσωπικά πιστευώ ότι καλή επιλογή. Ή θα έκαναν roll back πριν το combat system, ή καινούριο από την αρχή. Απλά οι παίκτες έφαγαν λίγο νίλα γιατί οι αλλαγές ήταν τεράστιες. Περιμένετε, δείτε το, και αν δεν σας αρέσει αλλάξτε παιχνιδί. Ουσιαστικά η Sony σας δίνει ένα καινούριο παιχνίδι. Μπαίνω στον πειρασμό να σχολιάσω για κάποιες άλλες εταιρίες, αλλά θα το αφήσω για τώρα


Kaju

[FFGR]

Kaju, to paixnidi ksanasxediastike mono kai mono giati einai na bgei se Xbox 360 (kai PS3 nomizw)
eprepe to game na ginei oso pio malakize ginetai kai pio eukolo gia na to paizoun ola ta paidakia pou exoun to xbox

[K Agg]

Στην ουσία δηλαδή το διαλύσανε.

Πάντως δεν είναι και πολύ περίεργο. Αυτό που θέλουν είναι να βγάλουν λεφτά και το xbox μάλλον υποσχέθικε πολλά λεφτά.
Από την άλλη είναι και λίγο απάτη. Όσοι έπαιζαν, και ήταν αρκετοί, μείνανε ξαφνικά με το keybord στο χέρι.....Τους δώσαν τα λεφτά πίσω ή μήπως τα πήρανε και μετά λένε "Άντε γαμηθήτε τώρα";;;;

Έχει διαφορά να πείς: "Παιδιά είμαστε ταπί, κλείνουμε το SWG και ξεκινάμε το SWG:Extreme."  και άλλο "Να πάτε να πνιγίτε εμείς θέλουμε να βγάλουμε λεφτα.".

[FFGR]

K Agg, einai to deutero ...
ama diavaseis to post tou Fried_Yoda, eksigei pws itan to system mexri twra, kati to opoio pisteuw pws itan kalo (apeires klaseis gia na dialekseis, den kanei Jedi kai o ka8e noobas)
me tis allages to game perisotero miazei me FPS para me auto pou itan arxika (point and click fasi)
I oli fasi einai AKOMI xeiroteri ama skefteis oti auto to prama to anakoinwsan meta apo LEAK pou egine apo Dev ama 8imamai kala kata la8os, merikes meres apo tin kikloforia tou teleutaiou expansion ... dld euxaristoume pou agorasate to expansion, twra allazoume teleiws to game, osoi 8elete na meinete, na meinete, osoi den sas aresei feugete ... alla euxaristoume pantws gia ta lefta pou riksate me to teleutaio expansion pack