Lol, i didn't need an upgrade to play it, if anything i needed the upgrade to play Warcraft, cause i only had like 256 Ram on the other computer cause it was ancient, i was amazed it played warcraft so smoothly, it only ever lagged in cities. My name in ArcticMUD is Jayzorblade, and zombie panic is awesome (I'll make a topic for it after i post this), lol, i've been meaning to try left 4 dead, but the internet cafe i sometimes go to doesn't have it installed on most of the computers so i have to just hope i get on one with it whenever i go in there, thus far however, no luck, lol, i'll pick it up at the weekend i guess.